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[RFC] Wall layers interlock #5261
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it has some potential. Sometimes I have similar issue when use more than 3 walls and get a gap between walls (I think due to temperature shrinking). |
However, that'll make implementation more tricky since all internal walls has the same path type within slicer while outer perimeter is a different one. But I'll look if that is something I could implement. |
Isn't the issue you are seeing a consequence of under extrusion in the inner layers? Usually these are printed faster which means that the extrusion rate is slightly lower which if you're borderline under extruding will result in perimeter separation. An alternative approach to improve perimeter binding may be to increase the overlap between inner and inner-inner perimeters similarly to what the precise outer wall does (in reverse and for the internal walls only). Or another way may be to create a separate flow rate parameter for external and internal walls, which would allow you to tweak the volume of plastic extruded and over extrude slightly the internal perimeters while maintaining dimensional accuracy for the external ones. However, what you're proposing is interesting for a different reason - it may increase part strength as the perimeters are overlapping with each other. CNC kitchen had done a similar video but their overlapping perimeters test was on the vertical plane (not the horizontal plane) |
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I agree with @igiannakas here regard the pictures. The print looks like an underextrusion issue to me.
But I like the idea
It may be it temperature issue. Some times they just read a wrong temp or the sensor is damaged. If you can check the temperature with a separate tool do it. |
@vgdh, I've looked into the code once more following your suggestion to push walls starting from the second priemeter and got another working POC: front-light-bracket_PETG_35m55s.gcode.zip I have not printed it yet (gonna do it during weekend), but looking at gcode l expect visual appearance will not be changed/degraded. This new approach currently implemented for Arachne perimeter generator only. |
Add option to produce interlocked perimeters. "Internal wall interlock" parameter defines percentage of internal wall width by which every other layer pushed inwards starting from 2nd perimeter. This produces bricklayer-like crossection pattern: Regular cross-section: +-----+------+------+ | ext | int0 | int1 | +-----+------+------+ | | | | +-----+------+------+ | | | | +-----+------+------+ 25% interlock: +-----+------+------+ | ext | int0 | int1 | +-----+------+-+----+-+ | | | | +-----+------+-+----+-+ | | | | +-----+------+-+----+-+ | | | | +-----+------+-+----+-+ 50% interlock: +-----+------+------+ | ext | int0 | int1 | +-----+------+--+----+-+ | | | | +-----+------+--+----+-+ | | | | +-----+------+--+----+-+ | | | | +-----+------+--+----+-+ Besides of inter-locking layers there are side-effect similar to the "Alternate extra wall" feature
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Perimeter interlock reworked to internal wall interlock which now works as follows: Current implementation is for Arachne only simply because it was easier to implement. Test prints: |
I'm closing this PR so far. Implementation needs to be refined in order to take care of all use-cases. |
Description
This PR is a Request For Comments and not intended to me merged as is. Intention is to get community response to see if (a) community is interested in this change and (b) what could be improved in feature design.
Background: I mostly print engineering parts and often use more than 3 walls. Having more than 3 walls I often see 3rd and subsequent walls (counting from outer inwards) may have bad adhesion or even came completely separated while printing vertical walls.
It may look like this:
I tried to fix this by adjusting existing set of parameters, but with no success. My flow rate looks OK since layer fill comes out completely flat with no gaps.
I also heard from colleague who use Cura that he also see this kind of artifacts.
So I've decided to do a patch which makes cross-section of wall layers to look like bricklayer pattern:
New parameter called "Outer wall line width variance" is added which defines a difference of outer wall line width for two consecutive layers.
Screenshots/Recordings/Graphs
Here are cross-section for 5 perimeters printed with 0, 25 and 50 outer wall width variance:
Also, setting non-zero variance makes internal wall no longer smooth. That side effect may also increase part strength by making stronger internal fill bond just like "Alternate extra wall" feature, but in this case there are no extra wall added.
Downside of current implementation
Since two adjacent layers of outside perimeter being squished to a different width, outside wall looks slightly less smooth. Outside dimensions are kept the same though.
Testing
If you going to try test build, new parameter called "Outer wall width variance" is added to the "Strength" setting page. Enable advanced parameters to see it.