Skip to content
New issue

Have a question about this project? Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community.

By clicking “Sign up for GitHub”, you agree to our terms of service and privacy statement. We’ll occasionally send you account related emails.

Already on GitHub? Sign in to your account

[CRITICAL VIOLATION] Pojav-Glow-Worm violates LTW license #319

Closed
Yarpopcat08 opened this issue Oct 11, 2024 · 14 comments
Closed

[CRITICAL VIOLATION] Pojav-Glow-Worm violates LTW license #319

Yarpopcat08 opened this issue Oct 11, 2024 · 14 comments

Comments

@Yarpopcat08
Copy link

Yarpopcat08 commented Oct 11, 2024

Description

Since the e107abc commit you added the Tinywrapper renderer from the PojavLauncher@QuestCraft project to your launcher. This action directly violates the LTW license: Tinywrapper is published under the Polyform Shield license, which protects the LTW renderer code from being stolen without the direct permission of its authors.

Suggested solution

The only right thing you are allowed to do is to revert this commit and remove all the code related to LTW from the PGW Launcher until you have the direct permission to use it in your project.

@Vera-Firefly
Copy link
Owner

Vera-Firefly commented Oct 11, 2024

你在和我开玩笑?
PojavLauncher团队成员artDev无视了GPLv3开源协议,擅自闭源了holy与ltw的代码,并且篡改了GPLv3协议为LGPLv3,并声称LGPLv2,v3是共存的
问题是LGPLv2,v3是可共存的,但GPLv2,v3协议可没有说可共存
PojavLauncher使用了Openjdk GPLv2的内容,并且没有进程隔离
这意味着artDev必须遵循GPL协议而不是LGPL
这两个开源协议是完全不一样的!

@Vera-Firefly
Copy link
Owner

我可以很明确的知道你并没有去查看过这个issues: PojavLauncherTeam/PojavLauncher#6158

@Yarpopcat08
Copy link
Author

我可以很明确的知道你并没有去查看过这个issues: PojavLauncherTeam/PojavLauncher#6158

I do what I'm told to do, sorry
But I'll take a read)

@Vera-Firefly
Copy link
Owner

Vera-Firefly commented Oct 11, 2024

I do what I'm told to do

I want to know who put you up to this. Is this really what you want to do?
I think you may have been deceived.

@Coloryr
Copy link
Collaborator

Coloryr commented Oct 12, 2024

I want to know where Tinywrapper is published under the Polyform Shield license come from, could you provide some links?

@Yarpopcat08
Copy link
Author

I want to know where Tinywrapper is published under the Polyform Shield license come from, could you provide some links?

This comes from direct statements of the team. I thought the public was more informed on this topic, but I guess this is where I have mistaken. I probably could provide message links

Is this really what you want to do?

My job was to leave the issue, I mean no harm to anyone

@Vera-Firefly
Copy link
Owner

Vera-Firefly commented Oct 13, 2024

I want to know where Tinywrapper is published under the Polyform Shield license come from, could you provide some links?

This comes from direct statements of the team. I thought the public was more informed on this topic, but I guess this is where I have mistaken. I probably could provide message links

Is this really what you want to do?

My job was to leave the issue, I mean no harm to anyone

"I mean no harm to anyone"
You think your haven't hurt anyone?
When you submit this issue, you indicate that you have supported artDev's approach
And artDev has been discriminating against us, not just verbally.
do you know?
You are undoubtedly helping artDev by doing this, and further increasing our workload and pressure. Do you think this is not "disguised" to hurt us?

@CADIndie
Copy link

While I wouldn't support anyone going against the Glow Worm project, and I also don't support many of the things ArtDev has done, I would like to state for the record that all the work done for LTW was done by the Pojav team and the QuestCraft team with no support from any other dev teams (outside of MIT modules). The project is built from scratch by us and it's quite disingenuous to say that we are "increasing your work load" when we have in fact done nothing that effects you, outside of course making a renderer that would create more competition against the Glow Worm project, outside of that we haven't made you do anything or harmed you. I understand being upset that you can't use our library, however it's much better that you take that energy and put it towards making something to compete with it instead of complaining that we aren't letting you use entirely our work against us while giving nothing back in return.

You wouldn't say a restaurant opening next to yours is an attack on you, why treat this as such?

@Vera-Firefly
Copy link
Owner

Vera-Firefly commented Oct 13, 2024

While I wouldn't support anyone going against the Glow Worm project, and I also don't support many of the things ArtDev has done, I would like to state for the record that all the work done for LTW was done by the Pojav team and the QuestCraft team with no support from any other dev teams (outside of MIT modules). The project is built from scratch by us and it's quite disingenuous to say that we are "increasing your work load" when we have in fact done nothing that effects you, outside of course making a renderer that would create more competition against the Glow Worm project, outside of that we haven't made you do anything or harmed you. I understand being upset that you can't use our library, however it's much better that you take that energy and put it towards making something to compete with it instead of complaining that we aren't letting you use entirely our work against us while giving nothing back in return.

You wouldn't say a restaurant opening next to yours is an attack on you, why treat this as such?

如果这能被称之为竞争,我可以很明确的告诉你我们从来都没有想过与原项目(PojavLauncher)竞争,
这不符合我们的做法,PGW和FCL以及PZH都是合作关系,更别提我们这三个项目都是基于原项目来进行制作的
我们没少给原项目做贡献,换来的是什么?
被理解为有意竞争????
另外补充一点: LTW渲染器的许可证我们并不知情,而且你们没有给出相关的资料证明LTW的许可证存在的真实性
I want to know where Tinywrapper is published under the Polyform Shield license come from, could you provide some links?

@CADIndie
Copy link

I cannot comment on your contributions to the original project as I don't work on it, I simply helped with and use LTW so please understand the standpoint I come from and don't take what I say as an attack.

Currently the source is not public, I'm not entirely sure why ArtDev has not opened it yet and I will speak with them shortly about it, however what I can say is that the project is and has been licensed under Polyform Shield and will be opened sometime in the future, however for now I have provided a image below:
IMG20241002145305

@Vera-Firefly
Copy link
Owner

Vera-Firefly commented Oct 13, 2024

I cannot comment on your contributions to the original project as I don't work on it, I simply helped with and use LTW so please understand the standpoint I come from and don't take what I say as an attack.

Currently the source is not public, I'm not entirely sure why ArtDev has not opened it yet and I will speak with them shortly about it, however what I can say is that the project is and has been licensed under Polyform Shield and will be opened sometime in the future, however for now I have provided a image below: IMG20241002145305

I understand, but what artDev is doing is not the right thing to do, and he has seriously violated the GPL license
You may not know what artDev did to do

@Yarpopcat08
Copy link
Author

Yarpopcat08 commented Oct 13, 2024

It'd probably be right, if I clarified that I don't have anything personal against any if the projects where the notices regarding LTW were created. This is in no way a personal attack

I want to know where Tinywrapper is published under the Polyform Shield license come from, could you provide some links?

This comes from direct statements of the team. I thought the public was more informed on this topic, but I guess this is where I have mistaken. I probably could provide message links

Is this really what you want to do?

My job was to leave the issue, I mean no harm to anyone

"I mean no harm to anyone" You think your haven't hurt anyone? When you submit this issue, you indicate that you have supported artDev's approach And artDev has been discriminating against us, not just verbally. do you know? You are undoubtedly helping artDev by doing this, and further increasing our workload and pressure. Do you think this is not "disguised" to hurt us?

This is not disguised to hurt you. I'd hate if the project just disappeared, this is the reason for leaving this notice
While we are on this topic, you keep saying that artDev did something bad. Maybe you could tell us about it? Maybe I don't see the full picture?

@Vera-Firefly
Copy link
Owner

It's been removed
87343dd

@Ezleak
Copy link

Ezleak commented Jan 14, 2025

wow, crazy
我觉得没有绝对的谁对谁错,只是背景不同资历不同立场不同,就是可能有些时候有些事做的过于极端了,以客观的视角

Sign up for free to join this conversation on GitHub. Already have an account? Sign in to comment
Labels
None yet
Projects
None yet
Development

No branches or pull requests

5 participants